Subject: Number of maps in the Zone? Sun 2 Aug 2020 - 11:01
As far as I am aware there are supposed to be 56 areas in the Game. But I can only find 51.
Spoiler:
Possibly, 5 of the underground corridors between Areas, that aren't apparent from the latest map of Zone image. Knowledge of the placement of areas' locations is helpful imo for when MO's pda is malfunctioning. So knowing where the missing 5 are, may be useful
. Does anyone know where the extra 5 areas are please? Thanks and regards, TrueB.
Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Sun 2 Aug 2020 - 13:56
From a quick count I make it 52 53* separate maps. Let me know if I have missed any...
*EDIT: Thanks Sword and TrueB for reminders about F1. The Arena, Norman's secret room in Agroprom and the Dead City exit tunnel also added.... and removed again! (Having looked closer, these areas are actually hidden below the surface of their parent maps.)
Maps...:
1 Agroprom 2 Agroprom Underground 3 Army Warehouses 4 ATP 5 Backwater 6 Bar 7 Black Market 8 Broken Road 9 Caves 10 Cemetery 11 Cordon 12 Courtyards 13 Dark Valley 14 Darkscape 15 Dead City 16 Dead Marshes 17 Distribution Center 18 Dump 19 East Pripyat 20 End Station 21 F1 22 Firing Range 23 Forgotten Forest 24 Generators 25 Hole in the Ground 26 Hospital 27 Jupiter 28 Jupiter Underground 29 Labyrinth 30 Limansk 31 Lost Village 32 NPP North 33 NPP South 34 Pripyat 35 Radar 36 Recon 37 Red Forest 38 Research Station 39 Sarcophagus 40 Sarcophagus secret area (O-Consciousness) 41 Secret Laboratory 42 Swamps 43 Techniques 44 Tunnels 45 Waiting Room 46 Warlab 47 Wasted Woodland 48 Wild Territory 49 X-10 50 X-16 51 X-18 52 X-8 53 Yantar
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Sword2012 Administrator
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Sun 2 Aug 2020 - 14:54
From my own notes there's also Facility F-1, and maybe Lab X-14 at some point...
pchester Administrator
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Sun 2 Aug 2020 - 16:20
Thanks Sword, I missed F1. Now added to list.
I think X-14 is the real name for
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Glavny's 'Secret Lab'. The description in ZEP [28] says that the ZRG in X-14 was "destroyed by the missing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.".
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Subject: Number of maps in the Zone? Mon 3 Aug 2020 - 11:03
pchester wrote:
From a quick count I make it 52 53* separate maps. Let me know if I have missed any... (*thanks Sword!)
Maps...:
1 Agroprom 2 Agroprom Underground 3 Army Warehouses 4 ATP 5 Backwater 6 Bar 7 Black Market 8 Broken Road 9 Caves 10 Cemetery 11 Cordon 12 Courtyards 13 Dark Valley 14 Darkscape 15 Dead City 16 Dead Marshes 17 Distribution Center 18 Dump 19 East Pripyat 20 End Station 21 F1 22 Firing Range 23 Forgotten Forest 24 Generators 25 Hole in the Ground 26 Hospital 27 Jupiter 28 Jupiter Underground 29 Labyrinth 30 Limansk 31 Lost Village 32 NPP North 33 NPP South 34 Pripyat 35 Radar 36 Recon 37 Red Forest 38 Research Station 39 Sarcophagus 40 Sarcophagus secret area (O-Consciousness) 41 Secret Laboratory (= X-14?) 42 Swamps 43 Techniques 44 Tunnels ("Southern Tunnels") 45 Waiting Room 46 Warlab 47 Wasted Woodland 48 Wild Territory 49 X-10 50 X-16 51 X-18 52 X-8 53 Yantar
Hi pchester, thank you pchester, for going to the trouble of providing a list which for the curious might indeed be a spoiler
Spoiler:
if the definition of areas is by transition, I realise now the ones underground such as the Southern Tunnels, and 40, I missed in my count also there is, I now recall Arnie's Arena, which like 40 and N, & S CNPP, is an extension within an area - that would make 54. You have F1 - 21 & X14 - 41 on your list. I don't know if TB still plans an extended arena, for that would make 55, and as I only tested L1 & L2, there may be something else in L3 which would be nice
Subject: Number of maps in the zone Tue 4 Aug 2020 - 5:28
pchester wrote:
From a quick count I make it 52 53* separate maps. Let me know if I have missed any... (*thanks Sword!)
Maps...:
1 Agroprom 2 Agroprom Underground 3 Army Warehouses 4 ATP 5 Backwater 6 Bar 7 Black Market 8 Broken Road 9 Caves 10 Cemetery 11 Cordon 12 Courtyards 13 Dark Valley 14 Darkscape 15 Dead City 16 Dead Marshes 17 Distribution Center 18 Dump 19 East Pripyat 20 End Station 21 F1 22 Firing Range 23 Forgotten Forest 24 Generators 25 Hole in the Ground 26 Hospital 27 Jupiter 28 Jupiter Underground 29 Labyrinth 30 Limansk 31 Lost Village 32 NPP North 33 NPP South 34 Pripyat 35 Radar 36 Recon 37 Red Forest 38 Research Station 39 Sarcophagus 40 Sarcophagus secret area (O-Consciousness) 41 Secret Laboratory (= X-14?) 42 Swamps 43 Techniques 44 Tunnels ("Southern Tunnels") 45 Waiting Room 46 Warlab 47 Wasted Woodland 48 Wild Territory 49 X-10 50 X-16 51 X-18 52 X-8 53 Yantar
Hi pchester, there is also a rather strange one that occurs in, iirc in battle with a controller
Spoiler:
It is a mission to get something in Yantar in a long ago as 1.10018, and possibly 1.10019.1 it might be when MO picks up from the carriage at the rear of the factory, the stash that leads to Kruglov's gift. All my MO recalled is finding himself in an area attached to Yantar, with a controller but once he has dispatched the controller there is seemingly no in game way out, unless MO already has the green rectangle object that takes him to Army Warehouses. Since a transition seems to be needed to escape, this area even smaller than your number 25, may count as number 56, if Arnie's Arena counts for 54 and TB extends it into one of the new territories
. Thank you for your help in showing the extant areas. All the Best, TrueB.
Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Tue 4 Aug 2020 - 10:06
Hi TrueB,
Sorry, I don't recall a hidden area in Yantar that has its own map. I remember Kruglov's task in the green wagon as being relatively uneventful apart from the usual annoying mutants.
Are you thinking of
Spoiler:
Kostya's Yantar cache? When you pick that up, you are transported to a strip of land behind the factory wall. When you arrive there is a Controller nearby on the other side of the wall (who sometimes glitches through...). Following the outside of the wall around the factory eventually brings you to a portal back into the factory grounds. However, those are just 'internal' portals that take you to another part of the same map.
I must admit I did think about including the place in Agroprom where you find Norman's Shield Control Unit, or the final exit from Dead City. Those are "secret" areas that (as far as I can tell) are not part of the parent maps. I suppose they could count as 'maps' in their own right...
EDIT: On reflection,
Spoiler:
Norman's secret room in Agroprom, the Dead City exit tunnel and the Arena should count as maps because they are discrete playable areas that are not part of larger maps. I have therefore added these to my list above, making 56 maps.
(Definition of computer game map (Wikipedia): A level, map, area, stage, world, track, board, floor, zone, phase, mission, episode, or course in a video game is the total space available to the player during the course of completing a discrete objective.)
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Subject: Number of maps in the Zone Thu 6 Aug 2020 - 5:14
Yes that's the one. I knew there was one but wasn't sure which one. I have not played the other one. I agree 56, because whatever their size the definition seems imo: a transition as part of play is required in at least one direction, that comes up with the loading screen. So eg Clear Sky base would not count. Is this what you mean?
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Thu 6 Aug 2020 - 18:43
What about Zaton?
pchester Administrator
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Thu 6 Aug 2020 - 18:49
The Clear Sky base can only be reached by portal, but it is actually a fenced-off corner of the Swamps map. If you use the "demo fly" mode you can see the whole area....
Open the console (on my UK keyboard this is the key below ESC) and type in demo_record 1. The basic controls are w/s = up/down, a/d = left/right. q/e= rotate. (The only way I have found to move forward/back is to turn sideways and use a/d.)
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Zaton is called Backwater in StalkerSoup. You can find the Backwater map at top left of the main Zone map.
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Subject: Number of maps in the Zone Fri 7 Aug 2020 - 17:52
pchester wrote:
The Clear Sky base can only be reached by portal, but it is actually a fenced-off corner of the Swamps map. If you use the "demo fly" mode you can see the whole area.... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
demo fly:
Open the console (on my UK keyboard this is the key below ESC) and type in demo_record 1. The basic controls are w/s = up/down, a/d = left/right. q/e= rotate. (The only way I have found to move forward/back is to turn sideways and use a/d.)
Hi Pchester, really apart from the woosh sound, the Clear Sky Base portal is the same as those of the "gauntlet" that MO runs after leaving the 2nd part of CNPP. So it would not count imo. I think the Areas that the loading screen comes up for, are the correct ones. The one with the controller qualifies because the method of escape leads to a loading screen. Regards and happy hunting, TrueB.
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Sat 8 Aug 2020 - 14:44
Hi TrueB, Yes, you are right. The "Entering the Zone" loading screen is probably the best sign that you are entering a new map.
Some of the 'maps' in my list do not have loading screens, so it is likely that they are actually hidden in some corner of the 'parent' map. Having looked again at the three additional areas that I added to my original map list (The Arena, Norman's secret room in Agroprom and the Dead City exit tunnel) they are all actually hidden areas below the "ground" in the main map, so I need to remove them from the list again! Ho hum...
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Subject: Number of maps in the Zone Mon 10 Aug 2020 - 10:14
pchester wrote:
Hi TrueB, Yes, you are right. The "Entering the Zone" loading screen is probably the best sign that you are entering a new map.
Some of the 'maps' in my list do not have loading screens, so it is likely that they are actually hidden in some corner of the 'parent' map. Having looked again at the three additional areas that I added to my original map list (The Arena, Norman's secret room in Agroprom and the Dead City exit tunnel) they are all actually hidden areas below the "ground" in the main map, so I need to remove them from the list again! Ho hum...
Ikaruss Experienced
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Tue 2 Mar 2021 - 2:04
Hi, guys... here Ikaruss again. I having enjoyed this mod again, although I see that there are not many updates. Even so, it is enjoyed.
Anyway, I have this query, since I come across this map (I assume old version, 2.1), of an area that is not in these latest versions.
And as I think I already told you, I have been using the reference maps, to adapt a tabletop role-playing game. I can't show you some mixes, because it happened to be too large files, but... I just leave you a couple of samples.
Spoiler:
Anyway, back to the previus subject, I'm interested to know about these maps:
Well, only three, the fourth map, I already played it, in its corresponding mod, the Valley of Whispers.
But I would be interested in being able to see and play the remaining maps, the one from Spatial Bubble, the one from Kurchatov 37, and the one from Polissya aka Woodland. And I can't any info on internet about these maps.
Thanks in advance.
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Tue 2 Mar 2021 - 3:20
Hi Ikaruss
Thanks for showing us these four maps
pchester is one of the best qualified to comment on them but, as the developers have recently been discussing and rationalising all the maps, there's been no mention of them being included in StalkerSoup at the moment
They may be on course to be assimilated in the future, but this would depend on their copyright, and permissions being requested and granted
There's also the problem of the game still being 32-bit, and how much more can be squeezed out of an already overburdened engine with a 3Gb RAM limit. Which is why the focus is on getting the new 64-bit engine working...
There will be a new update soon, and the devs are working towards it, though there's no set date yet
But one improvement will be the inclusion and descriptions of the 31 Locations (maps) missing from the Encyclopedia, in order to define every map currently in the game...
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Subject: Re: Number of maps in the Zone? Tue 2 Mar 2021 - 13:01
StalkerSoup already has 53+ maps to explore, but I think most of us would like to see even more new areas added at some point. However, as Sword says, there are copyright permissions and technical issues to consider, as well as the task of populating new maps with interesting characters and stories.
There are several other STALKER mods that do include different maps, including the original versions of Cordon, Garbage and Radar from before developer GSC were forced to cut them down for the published game. Whether these maps will eventually find their way into StalkerSoup remains to be seen, but hopefully some will appear in player-produced StalkerSoup DLCs in the future.
Incidentally, in the 'Things I Never Knew' department, I just learned from that bastion of Truth and Knowledge Wikipedia that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for "Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers and Robbers". Seems rather a forced acronym if true, but I suppose it does encompass most of the factions that you are likely to find in the Zone...
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Subject: Re the number of maps in the zone Mon 29 Mar 2021 - 12:39
Previous post:
pchester wrote:
StalkerSoup already has 53+ maps to explore, but I think most of us would like to see even more new areas added at some point. However, as Sword says, there are copyright permissions and technical issues to consider, as well as the task of populating new maps with interesting characters and stories.
There are several other STALKER mods that do include different maps, including the original versions of Cordon, Garbage and Radar from before developer GSC were forced to cut them down for the published game. Whether these maps will eventually find their way into StalkerSoup remains to be seen, but hopefully some will appear in player-produced StalkerSoup DLCs in the future.
Incidentally, in the 'Things I Never Knew' department, I just learned from that bastion of Truth and Knowledge Wikipedia that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for "Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers and Robbers". Seems rather a forced acronym if true, but I suppose it does encompass most of the factions that you are likely to find in the Zone...
Hi pchester, interesting interpretation of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but in my opinion, E could equally be Environmentalists or Ecologists such as Clear Sky and the Scientists like Sak and Kruglev. Regards, TrueB.
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Now added to list.
also there is, I now recall Arnie's Arena, which like 40 and N, & S CNPP, is an extension within an area - that would make 54. You have F1 - 21 & X14 - 41 on your list. I don't know if TB still plans an extended arena, for that would make 55, and as I only tested L1 & L2, there may be something else in L3 which would be nice
that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for "Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers and Robbers". Seems rather a forced acronym if true, but I suppose it does encompass most of the factions that you are likely to find in the Zone...