Lot of CTD in Radar Base. Save are corrupted

Hi All,

Got a lot of CTD after reload either quicksave or hard save.
Reload worked until the Monolith Base.

Need help !!!

Regards,
\PapyStalker

It sounds as your game is trying to load in a corrupted NPC or item file when you are approaching the top of the hill. I suggest that you try reloading a game from before entering Radar and see if it still happens. (You could turn on 'God' mode in the options and run past all the Monolith if you don't want to fight your way through them again.) If your game still crashes, please send a save game from before the crash, with an explanation of the problem, to Aleks at adoler(at)gmail.com, and hopefully he can figure out what is wrong.

If you want to try bypassing the Monolith at the top of the hill, you could use the ESC+F2 teleport menu to 'radar2' and it will drop you inside one of the buildings within the base. If the crash still hits you there, ESC+F2 to 'x10' should teleport you just inside the X10 lab entrance.

If you use the teleport into X10, I would try exiting the lab and entering again to see if that clears the problem. If it doesn't, then hopefully it will be clear by the time you complete the lab and leave. (NB: after completing X10 you must leave the above-ground base via one of the proper exits to trigger the next section of the game.)

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Actually when esc F2 is used to Radar 2, after players have done the task in Radar 2 that generates Syak it takes you right in selling distance of him. If you carry a stashbag and place it next to you and put in a loch and pda, you can either stash or sell. Sometimes when my MO has too much gear collected and is far from a trader, I use this to stash/sell and then F2 back to where I was.

Hi all,

I had reloaded a save game previous the Radar Entrance and run the radar till the X8 Lab. No CTD.

The only difference is that I did not take the Kostya Cache in Radar on the way to the Monolith Base.

Regards,
\PapyStalker

Thanks PapyStalker. I just passed that point myself, and I didn't have any problems either. I did pick up Kostya's stash along the way, so I don't think that is related. It looks (to my non-expert eye) as if random bad spawns are causing these issues in Radar and elsewhere. If one does happen, in my opinion it is always worth trying a reload of a game from before entering the map concerned in the hope that the spawns are different this time. Of course, it doesn't always work...

pchester wrote:

Thanks PapyStalker. I just passed that point myself, and I didn't have any problems either. I did pick up Kostya's stash along the way, so I don't think that is related. It looks (to my non-expert eye) as if random bad spawns are causing these issues in Radar and elsewhere. If one does happen, in my opinion it is always worth trying a reload of a game from before entering the map concerned in the hope that the spawns are different this time. Of course, it doesn't always work...

Hi pchester and PapyStalker, in Advanced Options, there is a choice of spawns to the regular, random and if I recall correctly random locations wording might be slightly different but the second option will give different spawns to the default ones. Regards TrueB

TrueB wrote:

Hi pchester and PapyStalker, in Advanced Options, there is a choice of spawns to the regular, random and if I recall correctly random locations wording might be slightly different but the second option will give different spawns to the default ones. Regards TrueB

Hi TrueB.
I think you are referring to the options for stashes. In Advanced Options you can choose either classic stashes (the default) or random content or randomly occurring. (I have to say, when I tested these options I couldn't see any difference to how stashes spawned, but that was some time ago and it may have changed.)

The problem that PapyStalker raised concerns repeated CTDs when approaching certain locations. When I have had similar issues, the fatal error in the log file usually suggests a problem with an NPC file. Loading a game from before entering the problem area can cause a different set of NPCs to spawn, hopefully not including the one causing the crash.

pchester wrote:

TrueB wrote:

Hi pchester and PapyStalker, in Advanced Options, there is a choice of spawns to the regular, random and if I recall correctly random locations wording might be slightly different but the second option will give different spawns to the default ones. Regards TrueB

Hi TrueB.
I think you are referring to the options for stashes. In Advanced Options you can choose either classic stashes (the default) or random content or randomly occurring. (I have to say, when I tested these options I couldn't see any difference to how stashes spawned, but that was some time ago and it may have changed.)

The problem that PapyStalker raised concerns repeated CTDs when approaching certain locations. When I have had similar issues, the fatal error in the log file usually suggests a problem with an NPC file. Loading a game from before entering the problem area can cause a different set of NPCs to spawn, hopefully not including the one causing the crash.

Thanks pchester - I didn't realise the spawns were only NPCs as you mention "corrupted NPC or item file"; apart from NPCs the only other random events were either mutants or artefacts,  that I could think of. I have not experienced the issues raised in going to these areas. So at least it seems not all players have these issues. Regards TrueB

Hi TrueB. Actually you could be right, the error could be due to anything that the game tries to spawn as you approach a new area. However, when I have had such crashes and examined the error log (which, admittedly, I don't do every time) it has always listed an NPC file as the cause.

I am only going by my own experience here, but as far as I am aware, if an object in a 'stash' is bugged it will only cause a crash if you try to interact with it. (Not exactly a stash, but one example is when MO is asked to find some items that were swallowed by fleshes in the Dump. One of the items is a pistol. Sometimes I can loot it from the corpse without any problem, but at other times picking up the pistol causes a CTD.)

Fortunately replaying from the start of the map solved the problem for PapyStalker, so all's well that ends well.

pchester wrote:

Hi TrueB. Actually you could be right, the error could be due to anything that the game tries to spawn as you approach a new area. However, when I have had such crashes and examined the error log (which, admittedly, I don't do every time) it has always listed an NPC file as the cause.

I am only going by my own experience here, but as far as I am aware, if an object in a 'stash' is bugged it will only cause a crash if you try to interact with it. (Not exactly a stash, but one example is when MO is asked to find some items that were swallowed by fleshes in the Dump. One of the items is a pistol. Sometimes I can loot it from the corpse without any problem, but at other times picking up the pistol causes a CTD.)

Fortunately replaying from the start of the map solved the problem for PapyStalker, so all's well that ends well.

Hi pchester.
Thanks to your reply for papystalker. I can through rader to x-10 without CTD.
But I met CTD when I turn off brain scorcher and get out to rader.
I cant even load my save just before. So I load my save just before turn off the machine.
How can I solve this?

Hi undead32.
If I understand you, you are still getting the CTD on returning to Radar even after replaying your game from before switching off the Brain Scorcher. Have a look in your log file and see if there is a Fatal Error listed at the very end. The log file is in STALKERSOUP\_appdata_\logs and will be called something like xray_yourname.log

Assuming that this is another corrupted spawn issue, there are a few things you could try:

1. Try loading an even earlier game from before entering X-10, and see if that clears it.

2. Instead of using the normal transition from X-10 to Radar, use the ESC+F2 teleport menu to radar2. This should place you in one of the buildings within the radar compound and away from the X-10 entrance. You may then be far enough from whatever is causing the CTD to continue. Leave through the nearby gap in the wall to trigger a message from Sidorovich and start the next part of the game.

3. If you are still too close, try ESC+F2 to radar. This will drop you outside the locked door at the bottom of the hill. You should be far enough away to avoid the CTD issue, but you will need to go back up the hill to one of the entrances to the radar compound (there is one close to the top of the hill) to trigger Sid's message.

Please note that you must cross one of the outer entrances to the X-10 compound to get Sid's message and start the next section of the game.

Good luck, and please let me know if any of this works.

pchester wrote:

Hi undead32.
If I understand you, you are still getting the CTD on returning to Radar even after replaying your game from before switching off the Brain Scorcher. Have a look in your log file and see if there is a Fatal Error listed at the very end. The log file is in STALKERSOUP\_appdata_\logs and will be called something like xray_yourname.log

Assuming that this is another corrupted spawn issue, there are a few things you could try:

1. Try loading an even earlier game from before entering X-10, and see if that clears it.

2. Instead of using the normal transition from X-10 to Radar, use the ESC+F2 teleport menu to radar2. This should place you in one of the buildings within the radar compound and away from the X-10 entrance. You may then be far enough from whatever is causing the CTD to continue. Leave through the nearby gap in the wall to trigger a message from Sidorovich and start the next part of the game.

3. If you are still too close, try ESC+F2 to radar. This will drop you outside the locked door at the bottom of the hill. You should be far enough away to avoid the CTD issue, but you will need to go back up the hill to one of the entrances to the radar compound (there is one close to the top of the hill) to trigger Sid's message.

Please note that you must cross one of the outer entrances to the X-10 compound to get Sid's message and start the next section of the game.

Good luck, and please let me know if any of this works.

Hello pchester. Good to see you!
I should work hard in writing lol.
Unfortunately, none of your solution is work. I think I should send my log file to you. where to I send it?

undead32 wrote:

Unfortunately, none of your solution is work. I think I should send my log file to you. where to I send it?

I have sent you a PM with my email address.

EDIT: I got your file okay. I loaded the save game from after shutting down the Scorcher. I didn't have any problems playing it back into Radar - although I didn't stop to loot anyone, I just headed for the main gate and left.

It sounds as if you have already made it past the CTD. It is possible that either an NPC that you looted, or an item of loot, was the problem - but I am just guessing. The log file gets overwritten each time you play, so the one with the error will have been deleted next time you played.

I made saves after leaving the compound (Sid's message) and at the bottom of the hill. Let me know if you are still stuck and I will send you the save games.

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Nah, I am okey. I through all the problem.
It's bad to can't figure out what's the reason.

Thanks for helping me.