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PostSubject: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Sun 2 Jul 2017 - 6:25

Aleks1970 has added a torrent in the download section. Thanks. Smile


Seriously mega download is a joke. I now have to wait 2-3 hours because I've gone over the limit. Really? Give me a break. affraid

Surely we can get a torrent going. Yes it's going to take time to get it going but it has to be the better way. cheers


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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Sun 2 Jul 2017 - 11:34

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Surely we can get a torrent going. Yes it's going to take time to get it going but it has to be the better way...

I'd be happy to support this. Does it need to be done in a special way, or coordinated and managed with each new release?
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 0:21

I have not done it before but I assume you make a torrent with v13 (latest). To start send the torrent file to someone, let them start downloading, leave the computer on overnight & check the progress in the morning. Until a few people get onboard it will be very slow.

As for the updates they could still be had at Meganz as you won't hit the download limit.

I'm still trying to finish off the main download from mega. I keep hitting that ridiculous limit.

I can make a torrent when done & send the file & see what happens???
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 2:00

I also have hit the mega limit. I signed up for a new account just to get round it.
I have also waited until the next day to download files, and even copied the temporary downloaded files, and manipulated firfox into resuming old downloads. you are right, its not the best solution, however a torrent maybe better.

Many torrents are blocked in many countries, but it wont stop us from uploading the torrent.

I currently have a fast and unlimited connection, so I should be able to seed under normal circumstances.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 2:24

Downloading from meganz you will end up with an iso file. That's OK if you know what to do with it.

The torrent can either be that iso file OR the files contained in the iso. All you have to is hit the exe file & it will install.

So what's it to be? ISO? EXE?

As for updating. That can be done with the in game updater. Patches are the only thing needed from Meganz.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 2:31

It's far easier to use the file folder. not everyone knows how to open ISO files.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 3:19

OK. I've created the torrent. All it contains is the setup files, nothing else.

It is seeding now.


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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 8:41

[link removed]

Be patient. It will take time to get it all. I don't leave my system on 24/7.


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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 11:45

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Here's the link. Will be available for 30 days. If after that it looks like a goer we can link it elsewhere, permanently hopefully.

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Be patient. It will take time to get it all. I don't leave my system on 24/7.

May I add here, to anyone not familiar with this hosting site, not to click on the big green 'Start Download' button, as it takes you to a totally spurious site... What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 3 Jul 2017 - 23:26

I downloaded it, but so far there are no seeds, I will leave my PC on overnight....
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 4 Jul 2017 - 0:08

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I downloaded it, but so far there are no seeds, I will leave my PC on overnight....
I'm getting nothing either, but I'll wait overnight too Sad
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 4 Jul 2017 - 0:20

I've just got out of bed & turned the computer on. Nothing happening here either. Maybe I need to do something this end? Can't check it now I'm on the way out. Will try again in a couple of hours.

Sorry guys.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 4 Jul 2017 - 6:21

I removed the above link. Sword2012 please do the same. Let's try that again...........last time!

[link removed] FAILURE! Suspect cyclops

If this does not work I got no clue.


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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 0:29

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I removed the above link. Sword2012 please do the same. Let's try that again...........last time!

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If this does not work I got no clue.


It's not working for me.... But I have a problem with external port connections, so I'm hoping this is related to my internet provider.

Polish internet companies are terrible at customer service, even if you speak Polish!!!
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 1:32

It says it is seeding but nothing happens. Looks like we are going to have to wait till someone comes along who knows what they're doing.......cause I don't. No Arrow NEXT!
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 1:33

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It's not working for me.... But I have a problem with external port connections, so I'm hoping this is related to my internet provider...
I'm still not getting anything either... I'll download the original files, create a compilation, and have a go at torrenting it myself - for the experience if nothing else... Idea
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 1:40

I'll remove my link seeing as it does not work.

Something I thought about later to add to the torrent was a readme with the forum address. Maybe an install guide?
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 2:53

affraid affraid It started working. Someone is downloading. It's going to take a while though. 0.2% so far.
Around 100 KiB upload.

Someone in the UK. Is that you Sword?
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 13:30

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affraid affraid It started working. Someone is downloading. It's going to take a while though. 0.2% so far.
Around 100 KiB upload.

Someone in the UK. Is that you Sword?

Yep, that'll be me. 30.3% obtained overnight Very Happy

I've also tried downloading from Mega. Like you, I got the 'exceeded quota' notice. Then I signed in to my Mega account, whereupon I was able to download the remainder without problems

I'll include this useful info in the Installation Help guide, since having a Mega account costs nothing, and gets you 50Gb of free Cloud space Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 20:59

can confirm it's working from me, I'm downloading from some dude in Slovenia... Its gotta be Aleks!!!

If so, Aleks only has 99.95% of the files... I currently have about 50%
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Wed 5 Jul 2017 - 21:01

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Be patient. It will take time to get it all. I don't leave my system on 24/7.

Is there a reason why the link was removed?
The link is entirely legal... So I see now reason why it should have been removed?

Also, it may be a good point to place the link on this site... its only a small index file and does not infrinege any copy right at all... (I think)...
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Thu 6 Jul 2017 - 0:17

The first link was removed because I changed the torrent file. (added a readme)

Second was because it was still not working. I was about to delete it from my system & saw it was uploading.

Have added the link to the first post. It expires the end of July.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Thu 6 Jul 2017 - 2:21

I'm seeding... but is there a way to provide a perminant link, maybe on moddb or something?

Just checked my progress on the download. It's at 100% but no one is downloading.

I think we need to advertise the torrent file if we want people to use it...


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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Thu 6 Jul 2017 - 2:35

I was thinking (hoping) Aleks1970 would add it to the download section & stick it up on meganz. Don't have to worry about hitting the quota limit with one. Laughing

Sword is back again. 32.3%
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Fri 7 Jul 2017 - 0:37

We now have a link to the torrent in the download section. Thanks Aleks1970.

Aleks1970 also added a game verifier in the download section that after it has checked the torrent will then start the install.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 10 Jul 2017 - 14:09

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We now have a link to the torrent in the download section. Thanks Aleks1970.

Aleks1970 also added a game verifier in the download section that after it has checked the torrent will then start the install.
My torrent download has finally completed, so it IS possible cheers

Now I'll download Aleks' instead, and seed that one  Rolling Eyes

Thanks for getting this started, Hipster Doofus Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 10 Jul 2017 - 16:27

I can confirm the torrent is working, I've downloaded it, and someone from Estonia is downloading from me.

The torrent may have been offline last night as I shut down my computer when I went to sleep..

Ill try to leave it on 24/7 for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Mon 10 Jul 2017 - 20:53

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I can confirm the torrent is working, I've downloaded it, and someone from Estonia is downloading from me.

The torrent may have been offline last night as I shut down my computer when I went to sleep..

Ill try to leave it on 24/7 for a while.

Something I don't understand is that, after downloading both Hipster's and Aleks' torrents, they look identical. The file sizes of the 'game setup' files in both torrents are exactly the same, but I thought that Aleks' torrent had a new 'game file verifier' included...  scratch

I just want to ensure that we're all seeding the same torrent! affraid

For the record, Hipster's took about four days to download, while Aleks' took just a few hours Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 11 Jul 2017 - 0:26

It's the same one. Don't panic. (Jonesy)

In the download section there is now a link to the verifier. Once the torrent has downloaded you can then grab the verifier to check that all is OK with the torrent.

I booted up this morning & saw it uploading. Though that Sword is back again. It was a couple of others though.

Seems to be doing its job well. Can only get better. bounce bounce
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 11 Jul 2017 - 14:07

May I suggest using dropbox for this? It might be more stable and easier to use/setup. The only thing I wonder about is copyright, as TB started with source files originally copyrighted by GSC. I'm not sure if anyone would be all that upset about it at this point, especially considering how much TB has changed everything but its something to think about.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Tue 11 Jul 2017 - 15:44

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May I suggest using dropbox for this? It might be more stable and easier to use/setup. The only thing I wonder about is copyright, as TB started with source files originally copyrighted by GSC. I'm not sure if anyone would be all that upset about it at this point, especially considering how much TB has changed everything but its something to think about.

TB owns the rights to the game, so that's not a problem. Dropbox is the problem. Although TB had a Dropbox Pro account, they refused to let him use it as a host for the game files due to the sheer number of downloads that were occurring

Distributing the game has been a challenge for him. We know that Mega has its problems. ModDB has been a successful host recently, but its hosting model is aging, and just can't keep up with the speed at which the game gets updated, and so will always lag behind

As such, torrenting seems to be the way to go, just as long as everyone seeding it stays up to date with the latest version - which I believe should come from one original source (Aleks?) after compiling and checking it all thoroughly...
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PostSubject: Re: What's Wrong With a Torrent?   Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 1:27

I used mega to get the 110012 iso, I didn't mind waiting the 6 hours to finish it, I kept the window open the whole time.
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