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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Fri 9 Mar 2018 - 11:05

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Also, why can i not dump the gold in a bag, bin, or save ? It disappear if i do that, and so i have to carry them all over minimising my load capacity.

If you drop, stash or sell a bar, it will disappear and reappear in the centre of the tunnels (the C-C position). This can be useful, as it means that if you drop each bar when you pick it up, they will all be waiting for you when you eventually return to the tunnels.

When you picked up the final bar, the order and placement will appear in your diary under Important Notes.

When you drop a bar in the correct place the tunnels will shake, which tells you that it has been placed correctly.
Thanks for the info pchester, i think ill just do that. Did you maybe read my other questions aboute the outstanding gold bars.

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Hi WhiteWolf, I'm not sure which questions you still need help with.

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Fri 9 Mar 2018 - 11:15

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i found spot file in broken road village but there is not gold bar in old bar.
i got atp treasure and where is the next treasure?

The Gold Bar is
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The note in the first ATP cache tells you where the next one is.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Fri 9 Mar 2018 - 13:49

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i found spot file in broken road village but there is not gold bar in old bar.
i got atp treasure and where is the next treasure?

The Gold Bar is
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The note in the first ATP cache tells you where the next one is.
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do you send ss ?


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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Fri 9 Mar 2018 - 14:59

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Also, why can i not dump the gold in a bag, bin, or save ? It disappear if i do that, and so i have to carry them all over minimising my load capacity.

If you drop, stash or sell a bar, it will disappear and reappear in the centre of the tunnels (the C-C position). This can be useful, as it means that if you drop each bar when you pick it up, they will all be waiting for you when you eventually return to the tunnels.

When you picked up the final bar, the order and placement will appear in your diary under Important Notes.

When you drop a bar in the correct place the tunnels will shake, which tells you that it has been placed correctly.
Thanks for the info pchester, i think ill just do that. Did you maybe read my other questions aboute the outstanding gold bars.


Hi WhiteWolf, I'm not sure which questions you still need help with.

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If I have missed anything, please let me know.
thanks for info. I understand what you say, but 1 question still pending, how do i get the other as note/info has stoped after bar 11 in hospital on table. I'm now running/sweeping maps one by one to see if i can find a pickup point to go from. Is it how the game is set or is something not giving the info i need. That's what i need to know is how to get the other info to gold locations. The same happened with A.X ZEP quest, stop getting info after ZEP 03. Any ideas will help me to get back on the quest's.

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Fri 9 Mar 2018 - 16:04

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thanks for info. I understand what you say, but 1 question still pending, how do i get the other as note/info has stoped after bar 11 in hospital on table. I'm now running/sweeping maps one by one to see if i can find a pickup point to go from. Is it how the game is set or is something not giving the info i need. That's what i need to know is how to get the other info to gold locations. The same happened with A.X ZEP quest, stop getting info after ZEP 03. Any ideas will help me to get back on the quest's.

Not all of the gold bars are linked by notes, in some cases you have to watch out for other clues. After you pick up the bar in the hospital,
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 10 Mar 2018 - 21:27

i cant enter atp game is error.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 10 Mar 2018 - 21:38

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i cant enter atp game is error.
same on my side, don't mater from where you enter, you have no functions, i get in to atp, but i cannot move, my mouse and keyboard is dead. Hope anyone else has a clue on this.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 10 Mar 2018 - 22:13

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i cant enter atp game is error.
same on my side, don't mater from where you enter, you have no functions, i get in to atp, but i cannot move, my mouse and keyboard is dead. Hope anyone else has a clue on this.

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Unfortunately this sounds like a problem I had in my last game. I sent a save game to TecnoBacon and had hoped that it was fixed by now, but perhaps it hasn't been. I haven't reached there yet in my current game, so I can't tell.

The problem that I had was this:
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 10 Mar 2018 - 22:31

Yes, that sounds like it? Also got the message from sid over someone spotted in atp, but i was doing the ZEP quest, that's when i started the gold quest. I just finished  ZEP 03, got the SMS from Sid and ATP not working, left it and started gold rush.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 10 Mar 2018 - 22:46

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Yes, that sounds like it? Also got the message from sid over someone spotted in atp, but i was doing the ZEP quest, that's when i started the gold quest. I just finished  ZEP 03, got the SMS from Sid and ATP not working, left it and started gold rush.

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I just reloaded my old game and this time I didn't get the problem after the Cemetery bar. It is possible that TB has fixed that one but the problem has just moved further along the bars quest line. Or it may be something else entirely. It is getting late here, I will have another look tomorrow.

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EDIT:  Okay, I have tried several saves and I can't reproduce the problem. I reloaded my game from after activating the tunnels and I can get in to ATP as normal to start Caesier.

First suggestion is, run the updater (STALKERSOUP\UpdateSS.exe) to make sure you have the latest patch.

Second suggestion, work back through your save games to find the point where ATP becomes inaccessible to you, complete the ATP part of Caesier and then continue either Gold Bars or Caesier from there.

Thirdly, if you are using the latest patch, email the save from before the problem starts to TecnoBacon (stalkersoup@tecnobacon.com) with an explanation of the problem, and hopefully he can provide you with a fix.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 11 Mar 2018 - 12:19

Confused:

1.  Doing the Freedom backpack mission for Panther, I kept the "invisible" suit on the entire time I was in the Freedom base. So, I don't think any base Freedom ID'd me. Before the mission, most Freedom in the base were friendly and all Freedom outside the base were friendly.

After finishing the mission, Freedom outside the base were friendly or neutral, Freedom in the base all were enemies.  My faction is listed as "Loner" so I was perplexed but went to Sid to have the faction relation reset. After the reset, all Freedom outside the base were friendly and all in the base became neutral.

Puzzling, but I accepted it as either something I did/didn't do or a game glitch.

2.  Here's the confusing part.  Later, after helping Vitamin take War Lab, he gives me the Freedom gold ingot and tells me that it entitles me to Freedom protection, etc etc.  I check and my faction with the bar is "Freedom." But when I go to the Freedom base from the lab, the entire base is my enemy once again.

Vitamin is friendly and I didn't kill or hurt any of the squad he commanded.

Huh?
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 11 Mar 2018 - 12:32

I think its a glitch lol. The game is losing track on who is who lol. I am not there yet, so i hope it will work out for me when i get there kol.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Mon 12 Mar 2018 - 6:58

More info on Freedom becoming an enemy:

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 5:04

No one?  Oh, well.  I'll start a new game.  This is a small glitch compared to not getting storyline prompts.  As one example, I never get the Fang SMS for the Red Forest doc, and Fang is clueless in person.

This whole playthrough has been like that.  It seems to begin when this happens:

My SS screen freezes and switching to another window (like task manager) switches to that window but the window is under the StalkerSoup window.  Only the Ctl-Alt-Del screen is visible outside of the StalkerSoup window, so the best I can do is to switch user or log out.

On re-entry to StalkerSoup, most of the savegames have been archived, but not in any discernible order.  Autosave and Quicksave are there, but no recent saves.  There might be a save from early in the game.  The Quicksave is rarely related to the most previous Quicksave I made, but the Autosave is current.  Saves I manually deleted often show up as available.

I load the Autosave, continue playing, and the flakiness begins somewhere thereafter.  Missing SMS, mission tasks, strange behavior of NPC like the affinity issue described above.

I've run overnight tests on CPU, memory, GPU and disk.  One disk has one bad block so I'll repair that and try again.  The other tests all show normal health.  I'm also going to turn off autoarchive of savegames in case that's part of the issue.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 14:49

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Sid's rep fixes or the ESC-F cheat will only add a certain amount to your rep with a faction, and it may only be enough to raise your relationships from hostile to neutral. Hopefully this will be enough to enable you to continue.

Stalkersoup does have a habit of archiving newly-saved games, I'm not sure why. IMO it is safer to play from a hard-saved game rather than the autosave as the autosave can be glitchy. To retrieve an archived save game, just move or copy the .sav and .dds files from the saves\arch1 folder to your saves folder. The next time you visit the game load screen it should be there. (This even works from within a running game - but, of course, you do need to be able to ALT-Tab in and out!) Sorting games by date in your file manager should make the latest games easier to find.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 15:58

Getting back at stalkersoup after getting angry with Misery and its corrupted saves trouble. Quick question, the crosshair isn't showing the colors of friend, neutral and enemy, it's like that or there's a way to change that? thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 16:17

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.],  the issue is moot now since I've started a new game, but

The issue is not with auto-archive and/or game restore or Sid's rep reset (I listed those as background material), it's about what caused such a negative rep to happen in the first place, and why those Freedom in the Freedom base hated me while those outside appeared to be unchanged.  All while playing the game without causing harm to any NPC, Freedom or otherwise.  For instance, Lukash went from friend to enemy in the space of one mission but the Freedom NPC at theRadar border remained friendly.

Stealing Lukash' backpack contents in the first instance I could see as an "injury" to Freedom, but I don't understand what causes negative rep in the second instance;  I'm helping Freedom by doing something they asked me to do without personally causing harm to any Freedom NPC.  Yet they hate me for doing it, even with the Freedom gold bar in my backpack.

The auto-archive and screen freezing appear to be symptoms of a bigger problem.  I've restored a save from the archive more than once due to this issue.  I used autosave in this case because the archive did not have a full recent named save;  in the archive the .sav files were present but not the .dds.  While it appears that a .sav without a .dds can be loaded and played, there is no user documentation regarding whether or not that is a solid game restore.

In any case, I restored the game from a named save (with no .dds) from just after accepting the Vitamin/War Labs mission with identical results.  And, please understand that this reported problem was one of numerous issues with my current playthrough. This issue was simply the last one I could overlook.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 21:29

i cant move bostwain base swamp for treasure.

is there a transition to this side?
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 14:49

game did slow after install 16.6.8 patch.

also game doing freeze
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 15:17

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Hi sjohnson,
You can "cheat" your way out of the rep problem with Freedom by editing task_manager.ltx. Pick a task with Barman, (or another Trader) that he usually has, e.g., cat's tail, and add or edit a line:
reward_relation = freedom, +xxx

You can look up your relations with each faction in the xray_name.log, and see how much is needed. As you probably know already, you need "0" to be neutral.

Also, try creating an archive directory NOT underneath _appdata_\saves. I surmise that directories set up by fsgame.ltx are a path, and that saved games in \saves\arch somehow affect the game. My appdata looks like this: \arch, \logs, \saves, etc. I manually move saves to \arch. How I arrived at this is, on more than one occasion, I've had a corrupt save that prevented Stalkersoup from starting. Moving it to \saves\arch didn't help. Moving it to _appdata_\arch did. Affected my game more than once. This may not be your problem, but it's something that worked for me.

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 18:12

I'll try the alternate archive directory suggestion.

I know about the affinity cheats - looked it up after the second loss of affinity with Freedom pale .  My problem was that I became disgusted with the number of various "cheats" this particular playthrough was requiring.  Either I did something to dramatically change the course of my game or the system hiccup'd, making me over into more of a hacker than a stalker Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 19:42

Any idea if i can put the crosshair changing collors again? Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 19:33

Game glitch - Speaking with Voronin for the first time, when asking about jobs, I don't get the opportunity to agree to take any job, just a "finished the job" dialog.

I then proceed to give Voronin an RG-6!?!?!  I haven't been yet to Army Warehouses and certainly did not have one in my pack.

Saves me doing a dull task, I guess! pirat
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 18 Mar 2018 - 13:47

sakharov is a thief. i gather throughout treasures mushrooms stolen by sakharov.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 18 Mar 2018 - 13:59

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sakharov is a thief. i gather throughout treasures mushrooms stolen by sakharov.

Hi kaplumbaga, what did Sakharov steal from you, if it is mushrooms, then here it is. Mushroom go's rotten and vanish bro, i saved them too, just to find they gone. don't save them too long, eat them or sell them.

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 18 Mar 2018 - 14:50

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Game glitch - Speaking with Voronin for the first time, when asking about jobs, I don't get the opportunity to agree to take any job, just a "finished the job" dialog.

I then proceed to give Voronin an RG-6!?!?!  I haven't been yet to Army Warehouses and certainly did not have one in my pack.

Saves me doing a dull task, I guess! pirat

no longer rg6 task will quickly completed after talk voronin.

yo not need go freedom base room.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 18 Mar 2018 - 19:09

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sakharov is a thief. i gather throughout treasures mushrooms stolen by sakharov.

If it's the Amanata mushrooms you lost, please read its description...
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Tue 20 Mar 2018 - 14:57

Can Chimeras now do short distance attacks?  Before 16,8 a Chimera seemed to have two basic attacks:  jump and slash, and melee.

Now, from 10+ metres away they are doing *something* to attack that disables MO.  It's not a melee, they're too far away.  Even if it were a melee, one melee swipe normally causes damage but not disabling damage.

I'm not talking about low stamina, I'm talking about the loss of HUD, paralyzed spinning spiral of death.

Whatever it is, it's invisible - the Chimera can be standing still or running at you and you suddenly have no HUD or means to recover or fight back.

It's a tough attack, borderline impossible to counter if it can be countered at all.  How do you fight back against an invisible attack?  NOT talking about invisible Chimera, either.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Tue 20 Mar 2018 - 15:18

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That's a new one on me. I'm most of the way through Collector 2, Marked One start 1.10016, most of the game played with 16.8. Next Chimera I see, I'll let get inside of 10 Meters and see what happens.

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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Tue 20 Mar 2018 - 15:35

The previous attack modes still apply, and the new one doesn't happen all the time. I just got hit by it multiple times when coming back from dealing with the snitch from Lukash. A total of 5 electric chimeras and was killed 5-6 times in a row this new way before sprinting into the cover of Freedom who helped me shoot the boogers.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 17:24

Is there any solution for the trip from Agroprom to Cordon ?

I killed all the soldiers and examined all the bodies and all floors in detail in a military base in Agroprom
but I could not find a document that would allow the passage from Agroprom to Cordon.


I watched Spawn Menu Directory v.33.xlsx but I did not find a document that would activate the opening of the passage.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 17:34

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Is there any solution for the trip from Agroprom to Cordon?

I killed all the soldiers and examined all the bodies and all floors in detail in a military base in Agroprom but I could not find a document that would allow the passage from Agroprom to Cordon.

To my knowledge and experience, this transition appears much later in the game, after you've fulfilled certain objectives. It certainly doesn't appear on your first visit to Agroprom...

But when it does it'll be
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 20:16

Thanks for your reply Sword2012. I remember that the road was open during the mission "Steal the military documents from the Agroprom", ( after rescuing Mole / Find Strelok's secret hideout ). But it's at the beginning of the game.
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 21:03

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Thanks for your reply Sword2012. I remember that the road was open during the mission "Steal the military documents from the Agroprom", ( after rescuing Mole / Find Strelok's secret hideout ). But it's at the beginning of the game.

Is that the mission from Sakharov to find the Agroprom docs? If so, unless things have changed, you'll receive the transition from Yantar to Agroprom in gratitude from Sakharov...
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 21:16

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Thanks for your reply Sword2012. I remember that the road was open during the mission "Steal the military documents from the Agroprom", ( after rescuing Mole / Find Strelok's secret hideout ). But it's at the beginning of the game.

Is that the mission from Sakharov to find the Agroprom docs? If so, unless things have changed, you'll receive the transition from Yantar to Agroprom in gratitude from Sakharov...

I found the cordon transition document
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PostSubject: Re: The '100 Rads' bar...   Sun 1 Apr 2018 - 22:08

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Thanks for your reply Sword2012. I remember that the road was open during the mission "Steal the military documents from the Agroprom", ( after rescuing Mole / Find Strelok's secret hideout ). But it's at the beginning of the game.

Is that the mission from Sakharov to find the Agroprom docs? If so, unless things have changed, you'll receive the transition from Yantar to Agroprom in gratitude from Sakharov...

I found the cordon transition document
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Nice one, pchester  Very Happy

In my last playthrough, after finding and returning Adrenalin's optical disc I received the transition from the ATP to the Army Warehouses...  

But maybe the Agroprom to Cordon document also turns up at Agroprom after doing this. I never figured out at what point it appeared... scratch
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